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Presentão de natal da Patroa

Postby Lucassantaritta » 25 Dec 2013, 23:37

Poxa, ganhei o codex do SM da munha senhora nesse natal, o que para um iniciante no hobby como eu é uma grata surpresa!
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mas pra não fugir do assunto do tópico, vou postar aqui minha lista de SM, e pedir algumas sugestões para próxima compra:

Pra começar tenho todos os SM da caixa Assault on Black Reach, mais um tactical squad com las cannon e melta gun, e um assault squad, com um power fist, scouts com um heavy bolter, e um marneus calgar and honour guard (falsificado da china) e um librarian. sei que faltam alguns veículos, mas qual seria uma boa opção pra proxima compra? to esperando tbm chegar 9 bikes orks e 30 boyz pra juntar com os que vieram na caixa do aobr, mas queria uma opção de hq ork.
qualquer ajuda é bem vinda ^^
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Re: Presentão de natal da Patroa

Postby Ellendill » 26 Dec 2013, 11:21

Vou tentar t ajudar e aproveitar para estudar alguns recurso do AB aqui

Pelo que disse vc deve ter mais ou menos a seguinte pontuação

Acho que primeiramente vc deve pensar se quer uma lista competitiva ou uma lista divertida de jogar, isso torna a criação da lista muito pessoal. Eu, olhando as minis que já possui tentaria ir para ledo dos ultramarines mesmo e tentaria explorar o máximo de seu chapter tactics mesmo

um coisa que percebi é que tens 3 HQ, acho que seria interessante deixar o librariam na mesma pontuação do captain e ai vc substituiria um pelo outro e sentiria se potencial tático

Abaixo seria sua lista:
1453/2000 Pts - Codex: Ultramarines Roster

1 Marneus Calgar, 285 pts ((C:SM, pgs. 105 & 160); Infantry (Character); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Iron Halo; Power Sword; Teleport Homer; Armour of Antilochus; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines); Eternal Warrior; God of War; Independent Character; Orbital Bombardment; Titanic Might)
. . 1 Gauntlets of Ultramar

1 Captain, 150 pts ((C:SM, pp. 79 & 164); Infantry (Character); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Iron Halo; Relic Blade; Artificer Armour; Power Sword x1; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines); Independent Character)

1 Honour Guard, 135 pts (Infantry)
. . 1 Chapter Banner
. . 1 Chapter Champion (Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Artificer Armour; Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; Power Sword; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines); Honour or Death)
. . 1 Honour Guard (Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Artificer Armour; Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; Power Sword; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines))
. . 1 Honour Guard (Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Artificer Armour; Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; Power Sword; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines))
. . 1 Honour Guard (Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Artificer Armour; Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; Power Sword; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines))

9 Tactical Squad, 180 pts ((C:SM, pp. 83 & 167); Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol x9; Boltgun x7; Flamer; Missile Launcher; Flakk Missiles (for Missile Launcher); And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines); Combat Squads)
. . 1 Veteran Sergeant (Infantry (Character); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines); Combat Squads; Upgrade to Veteran Sergeant)

9 Tactical Squad, 180 pts ((C:SM, pp. 83 & 167); Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol x9; Boltgun x7; Meltagun; Lascannon; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines); Combat Squads)
. . 1 Veteran Sergeant (Infantry (Character); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines); Combat Squads; Upgrade to Veteran Sergeant)

4 Scout Squad, 73 pts ((C:SM, pp. 85 & 167); Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Scout Armour; Bolt Pistol x4; Boltgun x3; Heavy Bolter; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines); Combat Squads; Infiltrate; Move Through Cover; Scouts)
. . 1 Veteran Sergeant (Infantry (Character); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Scout Armour; Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines); Combat Squads; Infiltrate; Move Through Cover; Scouts; Upgrade to Veteran Sergeant)

4 Assault Squad, 150 pts ((C:SM, pp. 83 & 173); Jump Units; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Jump Pack; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol x2; Chainsword x4; Plasma Pistol x2; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines); Combat Squads)
. . 1 Veteran Sergeant (Infantry (Character); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Jump Pack; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol; Power Fist x1; Upgrade to Veteran Sergeant)

4 Terminator Squad, 200 pts ((C:SM, pp. 90 & 172); Infantry; Terminator Armour; Power Fist x4; Storm Bolter x4; And They Shall Know No Fear; Bulky; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines); Combat Squads)
. . 1 Terminator Sergeant (Infantry (Character); Terminator Armour; Power Sword; Storm Bolter; And They Shall Know No Fear; Bulky; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines); Combat Squads)

1 Dreadnought, 100 pts ((C:SM, pp. 91 & 171); Vehicle (Walker); Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Multi-melta; Power Fist; Storm Bolter)


Abaixo minha sugestão:
2000 Pts - Codex: Ultramarines Roster

1 Marneus Calgar, 285 pts ((C:SM, pgs. 105 & 160); Infantry (Character); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Iron Halo; Power Sword; Teleport Homer; Armour of Antilochus; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines); Eternal Warrior; God of War; Independent Character; Orbital Bombardment; Titanic Might)
. . 1 Gauntlets of Ultramar

1 Captain, 150 pts ((C:SM, pp. 79 & 164); Infantry (Character); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Iron Halo; Relic Blade; Artificer Armour; Power Sword x1; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines); Independent Character)

1 Honour Guard, 135 pts (Infantry)
. . 1 Chapter Banner
. . 1 Chapter Champion (Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Artificer Armour; Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; Power Sword; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines); Honour or Death)
. . 1 Honour Guard (Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Artificer Armour; Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; Power Sword; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines))
. . 1 Honour Guard (Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Artificer Armour; Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; Power Sword; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines))
. . 1 Honour Guard (Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Artificer Armour; Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; Power Sword; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines))

9 Tactical Squad, 215 pts ((C:SM, pp. 83 & 167); Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol x9; Boltgun x7; Flamer; Missile Launcher; Flakk Missiles (for Missile Launcher); And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines); Combat Squads)
. . 1 Veteran Sergeant (Infantry (Character); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines); Combat Squads; Upgrade to Veteran Sergeant)
. . 1 Rhino ((C:SM, pp. 98 & 169); Vehicle (Transport, Tank); 10 model capacity; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Storm Bolter; Repair)

9 Tactical Squad, 180 pts ((C:SM, pp. 83 & 167); Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol x9; Boltgun x7; Meltagun; Lascannon; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines); Combat Squads)
. . 1 Veteran Sergeant (Infantry (Character); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines); Combat Squads; Upgrade to Veteran Sergeant)

4 Scout Squad, 73 pts ((C:SM, pp. 85 & 167); Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Scout Armour; Bolt Pistol x4; Boltgun x3; Heavy Bolter; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines); Combat Squads; Infiltrate; Move Through Cover; Scouts)
. . 1 Veteran Sergeant (Infantry (Character); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Scout Armour; Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines); Combat Squads; Infiltrate; Move Through Cover; Scouts; Upgrade to Veteran Sergeant)

4 Assault Squad, 150 pts ((C:SM, pp. 83 & 173); Jump Units; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Jump Pack; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol x2; Chainsword x4; Plasma Pistol x2; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines); Combat Squads)
. . 1 Veteran Sergeant (Infantry (Character); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Jump Pack; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol; Power Fist x1; Upgrade to Veteran Sergeant)

4 Assault Squad, 150 pts ((C:SM, pp. 83 & 173); Jump Units; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Jump Pack; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol x2; Chainsword x4; Plasma Pistol x2; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines); Combat Squads)
. . 1 Veteran Sergeant (Infantry (Character); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Jump Pack; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol; Power Fist x1; Upgrade to Veteran Sergeant)


4 Terminator Squad, 200 pts ((C:SM, pp. 90 & 172); Infantry; Terminator Armour; Power Fist x4; Storm Bolter x4; And They Shall Know No Fear; Bulky; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines); Combat Squads)
. . 1 Terminator Sergeant (Infantry (Character); Terminator Armour; Power Sword; Storm Bolter; And They Shall Know No Fear; Bulky; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines); Combat Squads)

1 Dreadnought, 100 pts ((C:SM, pp. 91 & 171); Vehicle (Walker); Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Multi-melta; Power Fist; Storm Bolter)

4 Devastator Squad, 180 pts ((C:SM, pgs. 83 & 175); Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol x4; Missile Launcher x4; Flakk Missiles (for Missile Launcher) x4; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines); Combat Squads)
. . 1 Veteran Sergeant (Infantry (Character); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Signum; Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; Upgrade to Veteran Sergeant)

4 Devastator Squad, 180 pts ((C:SM, pgs. 83 & 175); Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol x4; Missile Launcher x4; Flakk Missiles (for Missile Launcher) x4; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines); Combat Squads)
. . 1 Veteran Sergeant (Infantry (Character); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Signum; Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; Upgrade to Veteran Sergeant)


Um rhino para deixar um dos táticos com mais mobilidade e devastator com flakk para cuidar dos anti-aerios
Mais um assault para servir de bucha de canhão.... e resto é aproveitar o máximo o chapter tactics

abaixo outra lista se vc quiser atingir 2000 comprando apenas 5 táticos e um veiculo e ainda assim aproveitando seu librariam com aliado Dark Angel

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2000 Pts - Codex: Ultramarines Roster

1 Marneus Calgar, 285 pts ((C:SM, pgs. 105 & 160); Infantry (Character); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Iron Halo; Power Sword; Teleport Homer; Armour of Antilochus; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines); Eternal Warrior; God of War; Independent Character; Orbital Bombardment; Titanic Might)
. . 1 Gauntlets of Ultramar

1 Captain, 150 pts ((C:SM, pp. 79 & 164); Infantry (Character); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Iron Halo; Relic Blade; Artificer Armour; Power Sword x1; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines); Independent Character)

1 Honour Guard, 135 pts (Infantry)
. . 1 Chapter Banner
. . 1 Chapter Champion (Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Artificer Armour; Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; Power Sword; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines); Honour or Death)
. . 1 Honour Guard (Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Artificer Armour; Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; Power Sword; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines))
. . 1 Honour Guard (Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Artificer Armour; Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; Power Sword; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines))
. . 1 Honour Guard (Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Artificer Armour; Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; Power Sword; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines))

9 Tactical Squad, 180 pts ((C:SM, pp. 83 & 167); Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol x9; Boltgun x7; Flamer; Missile Launcher; Flakk Missiles (for Missile Launcher); And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines); Combat Squads)
. . 1 Veteran Sergeant (Infantry (Character); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines); Combat Squads; Upgrade to Veteran Sergeant)

9 Tactical Squad, 180 pts ((C:SM, pp. 83 & 167); Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol x9; Boltgun x7; Meltagun; Lascannon; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines); Combat Squads)
. . 1 Veteran Sergeant (Infantry (Character); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines); Combat Squads; Upgrade to Veteran Sergeant)

4 Scout Squad, 73 pts ((C:SM, pp. 85 & 167); Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Scout Armour; Bolt Pistol x4; Boltgun x3; Heavy Bolter; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines); Combat Squads; Infiltrate; Move Through Cover; Scouts)
. . 1 Veteran Sergeant (Infantry (Character); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Scout Armour; Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines); Combat Squads; Infiltrate; Move Through Cover; Scouts; Upgrade to Veteran Sergeant)

4 Assault Squad, 150 pts ((C:SM, pp. 83 & 173); Jump Units; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Jump Pack; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol x2; Chainsword x4; Plasma Pistol x2; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines); Combat Squads)
. . 1 Veteran Sergeant (Infantry (Character); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Jump Pack; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol; Power Fist x1; Upgrade to Veteran Sergeant)

4 Terminator Squad, 200 pts ((C:SM, pp. 90 & 172); Infantry; Terminator Armour; Power Fist x4; Storm Bolter x4; And They Shall Know No Fear; Bulky; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines); Combat Squads)
. . 1 Terminator Sergeant (Infantry (Character); Terminator Armour; Power Sword; Storm Bolter; And They Shall Know No Fear; Bulky; Chapter Tactics (Ultramarines); Combat Squads)

1 Dreadnought, 100 pts ((C:SM, pp. 91 & 171); Vehicle (Walker); Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Multi-melta; Power Fist; Storm Bolter)

1 Librarian (HQ) [DA], 130 pts ((C:DA, pp. 31 & 94); Infantry (Character); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Psychic Hood; Bolt Pistol; Force Sword; Power Field Generator; Increase Mastery Level x1; Fearless; Independent Character; Inner Circle; Preferred Enemy (CSM); Psyker (Mastery Level 2); 6E Psychic Disciplines: ; Divination; Pyromancy; Telekinesis; Telepathy)

4 Tactical Squad (Troops) [DA], 85 pts ((C:DA, pp. 37 & 95); Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol x4; Boltgun x3; Plasma Cannon; And They Shall Know No Fear; Combat Squads; Grim Resolve; Stubborn)
. . 1 Sergeant [DA] ((C:DA, pp. 35 & 103); Infantry (Character); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; Grim Resolve; Stubborn)

1 Land Raider Achilles (IA) (Heavy) [DA], 335 pts ((IAAse, pg. 30); Vehicle (Transport, Tank); 6 model capacity; Extra Armour; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Thunderfire Cannon; Twin-linked Multi-melta (x2); Pintle-mounted Storm Bolter; Ferromantic Invulnerablity; Power of the Machine Spirit)


Nesta ultima vc tem o clássico combo do librariam com power field dando 4++ ao aquiles e a qualquer um que fique a 3" dele. Ainda se não bastasse, com a disciplina divination um dos poderes seria prescience deixando ainda mais mortal o aquiles.... ai é só torcer pra rolar um 3 na tabela e pegar um segundo poder psíquico de misfortune....

to sem fazer nada em casa e com uma vontade tremenda de jogar ai da nisso.....
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Re: Presentão de natal da Patroa

Postby Lucassantaritta » 26 Dec 2013, 15:07

rapaz Ellendil, ajuda violenta mesmo cabra! realmente obrigado! :D
com relação a motivo pra jogar, sempre preferir seguir uma filosofia mais "for fun"
só algumas duvidas a mais aqui:
ter 3 hq's não é muito? pensei em usar só o librarian e o captain, comprei o marneus mais pela honour guard e pq tava barato. daria pra substituir o marneus por alguma outra coisa, tipo dreadnought ou predator?
gostei da dica do land raider + librarian :twisted: mas landa raider é tão caro (não em pontos, em grana mesmo :( )
e como que vc fez esse rooster? software ou algum site?
com relação a chapter, acho os ultramarines legais, mas meio "sem sal", tava pensando em iron hands ou raven guard (sei que pra RG vou precisar de mais uns assault)
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Re: Presentão de natal da Patroa

Postby Ellendill » 26 Dec 2013, 20:14

legal q gostou

1- bom se a lista for pura ultramarine marneus e o captain ou só marneus ta ótima
pq marneus?? porque ele maximiza a chapter tactics ultramarine

2- land raider normal vc encontra por 45Us usado por ai no ebay ou até mesmo no fórum

3- táctica librariam + veiculo só funciona com dark angels pois ele pode comprar o force field generator

4- software para armys list uso o AB da lone Wolf
http://www.wolflair.com/index.php?context=army_builder

5- os "filhos favoritos" sem sal?
como eu disse cada um tem seu gosto 'a este respeito

6- Iron hands é o chapter do momento investe os pontos extra em predators e dreads
aconselho contemptor mortis dread para suprir a necessidade anti aérea
ranven guard é muito legal de jogar, investe os pontos extra no Shrike ou Korvidae ou ambos.... mais assaults e scouts
lembre-se táticas de bater e sumir...

fica minha sugestão;;;;
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Re: Presentão de natal da Patroa

Postby Lucassantaritta » 27 Dec 2013, 18:15

obrigado meu velho! vou dar uma lida aprofundada no codex e fazer meus planejamentos financeiros pra o começo ano. o proximo passo é o ork codex mais uns ork trukk e alguns loota talvez.
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